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in the fiscal cliff debate. tax rates spike and spending slashed. congress is breaking for the holidays in two weeks. it could send the economy spinning in directions. $1.6 trillion in tax hikes. he will travel to pennsylvania to sell it to you. republicans aren't buying it. listen to house speaker, john boehner. >> despite the claims the president supports a balanced approach, the democrats have yet to get serious about real spending cuts. >> democrats are firing right back at boehner. harry reid getting a little personal. >> i don't understand his brain, so you should ask him. okay? >> ouch. athena jones live from washington. same old same old. where do we go from here? >> that's the big question. the nice talk after the election is pretty much gone away. you mentioned one of the big sticking points, that's taxes. republicans and democrats can't agree on how to raise the tax revenue? end the bush tax cuts for the wealthy, close the loopholes, raise the capital gains taxes or all of the above. right now, they can't agree on how much money should be raised on the revenue side. let's listen to
over that so-called fiscal cliff. tax hikes and spending cuts kick in if no agreement is reached between the house and republicans on how to close the budget gap. it has been more than two weeks since president obama invited the major players to the white house to discuss the situation. as of this morning, no new talks are scheduled. brianna keilar joins us. so many republicans say they are pessimistic about a deal happening in time to avert this fiscal cliff. some say it's for political reasons. what can you tell us? >> it may all be for political reasons. that's no surprise in washington. as you can seen through dealmaking not just on this but things in the past couple of years between the white house and congress, there is almost this rhythm that has evolved. both sides are pointing to the other for an impasse. republicans like senator lindeyy graham just slamming the white house and tim geithner for a plan he laid out on behalf of the administration, laying out about $1.6 trillion in new revenues coupled with only about $400 billion in medicare cuts. listen to what graham sai
with congress on spending cut and other fiscal cliff details. the first meeting will be tomorrow on the hill. >> pelley: major, president said today he thought all this could be done by christmas. why does he think so? >> reporter: because that is the big takeaway, scott, from the president's conversation on saturday with house speaker john boehner. the two agreed it was in foeryone's best interest to get a fiscal cliff deal sooner rather than later, both agreed to aim for one before christmas, but they also acknowledged, scott, it will be very difficult to achieve that. >> pelley: thank you, major. will the president's team find a receptive republican congress? nancy cordes is on capitol hill for us tonight. nancy. >> reporter: well, scott, one top republican aide actually told me today that he sees these talks as one-sided, that republicans have been making all the proposals, and speaker boehner said he's still waiting for a balanced offer from the white house. >> republicans are willing to att revenue on the table but it's time for the president and democrats to get serious about the spen
-called fiscal cliff. they will discuss now to avert tax increases and spending cuts due to begin in january. >>> little progress in talks between the white house and house speaker boehner. >>> if you the past few days wishing you had -- california may be getting into the big game power ball played in 42 other states. lottery officials meet today expected to adopt regulations to join power ball on the heels of the staggering jackpot of 579 million dollars two winning tickets were drawn, sold in arizona and missouri. california retailers could begin selling the $2 tickets next year would it bring in 90 to 120 middles to help supplement education spending in -- million dollars to help supplement education in -- spending. >>> let's see if we are winners the weather race today. i think we are if you count raindrops. >>> we are still looking at two bigger storms headed our way, light showers this morning, live doppler showing most activity in the north bay up through cloverdale, ukiah, a few showers offshore also napa and snow may. if you are headed out highway 101 and 121 on the wet side, be car
with the fiscal cliff crisis. opponents say they will not bulging. >> reporter: house republicans want big spending cuts but no tax rate increases. here is a picture of president barack obama answering questions on twitter about the fiscal cliff. he is promoting a reference to the estimated tax increase and middle income families would see if rates are not extended, the latest would extend tax cuts for everyone including americans and who the president wants to exclude. the white house says the proposal is too short on specifics. >> we can't guess what they are, they need to tell us and they look forward to the time when they are specific with the ways we have dealt with it. >> they don't like what republicans want to do to social security and more on that during my next update. reporting live, allison burns, ktvu channel 2 morning news. >>> 5:14 in florida, they have released a photo of george zimmerman, showing george zimmerman with a swollen nose and blood did i face. they responded and said it adds nothing new to the case. the volunteer watch man is charged with second-degree murder an
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leadership says he thinks president obama wants to go over the fiscal cliff by proposing higher taxes, no spending cuts and no plans to save entitlements. with president obama going to pennsylvania today, the house republican whip, kevin mccarthy's office put out a video profiling a small business nearby in pennsylvania that would get hurt by a tax hike. >> i'm jerry gorsky from an engineering company. however good or bad we do is my income. this notion of $250,000 being top 2% or the wealthy people in america ignores the way most small businesses work in america. >> reporter: i mentioned president obama is going out on the trail, if you will in pennsylvania to sell his arguments. one would expect we would hear some sort of response from speaker john boehner after that. jon. jon: what are the democrats saying? i mean about these g.o.p. complaints? what is your response? >> reporter: they are saying republicans if you don't like the president's plan, where is your own plan? they are asking for specifics on revenue in terms of tax revenue. they are also asking for specifics on what repu
's mind right now. with about four weeks to go before that fiscal cliff of tax hikes and spending cuts gets triggered, negotiations still appeared at a standstill on tuesday. karin caifa tells us where everything stands. >> in the midst of a standoff with capitol hill republicans, president obama told bloomberg news that the latest plan put forth by house speaker john boehner, simply doesn't add up. the >> speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. he talks about, for example, eight hundred billion dollars worth of revenues but he says he will do that by lowering rates. when you look at the math, it does does not work. >> not work. as negotiations as negotiations to avoid the so-called "fiscal cliff" continue, republicans were equally dismissive of the last proposal from the president. >> his proposal was so outlandish i don't think we should go back to the table until he puts something there that we can work with. >> the key sticking point between the two sides hasn't changed -- tax rates for the wealthy. >> the math is clear. the only way to accomplish these things
for separate talks on the so-called fiscal cliff. they will discuss how to avert a series of tax increases and spending cuts due to begin in january. there's been little evident progress in talks between the white house and lead gop negotiator, house speaker boehner. >>> if you the past few days wishing you lived somewhere that has power ball, you may get your wish. california may be getting in on the big game, already played in 42 other states. lottery officials meet today and are expected to regulations to join power ball on the heels of staggering jackpot of 579 million dollars. two winners, arizona and misery -- arizona and missouri. >>> 5:36. let's see what is going on with the weather. . >>> good morning. up in the north bay, clover lake, clear lake, dry creek road light showers will continue to increase throughout the afternoon south afternoon novato into san rafael, light showers, lucas valley road, damp, winds are breezy this is in advance of this next system, look at this these thunderstorms offshore, these are going to stay north, we are looking at this line of heavier rain to m
to zoraida sambolin for an update on the day's top stories. >> soledad, the fiscal cliff debacle, with 28 days remaining before drastic tax hikes and spending cuts take effect, a republican spending plan has been rejected by the white house. brianna keilar is live from washington. what now, brianna? >> well, right now it's about the pressure building and the clock kicking, zoraida. as house republicans in the white house try to ultimately broker a deal between two very different plans. house speaker john boehner's counteroffer, if you take a look at the headlines from this $800 billion in what would be savings from tax reform. so that is new tax revenue. but not done by increasing income tax rate on the wealthiest. but instead by closing tax loopholes, eliminating tax credits. and also $600 billion in health savings. that's what you'd get from entitlement reform. from reforming medicare, and doing some cuts there under this plan. but compare it to the white house plan, very different than what's on the table there. $1.6 trillion in new taxes. that is two times the amount in the boehner pl
.s. could face massive spending cuts and tax increases known as the fiscal cliff. they are talking about it in washington. today congressional republicans put forward alternative to the president plan. but tonight we are no closer to a deal. political reporter mark matthews explains what that means. >> san francisco cafe owner has been watching the cliff creep closer an hoping for rest logs. >> because if they don't it's going to be really tough. >>reporter: he's talking about employees. see the income taxes increase by a couple of thousands dollars. >> cost of living is really high and tough to make it especially in the city like san francisco. >>reporter: if congress and president can't reach an agreement income taxes will go up on nearly all americans. average family will be paying an extra 2000 to 2400 dollars a year. automatic spending cuts mean cuts to education. transportation. research and development. there's proposal to up airline fee that is could raise 1 billion dollars cutting back on those who 7 fad stamps could bring in another 4 to 16 billion over 10 years. elimin
to tax and spend. they don't like the plan. is our plunge off the fiscal cliff inevitable? >> and secretary of state stiewfn rice, the ambassador still getting a ton of support from the white house but benghazi may not be the only blemish on her record. >> and baby jesus benched and now frosty the snowman starring in school's nativity scene? why do atheist have more rights when it comes to the constitution? "fox & friends" hour two starts right now. >> sparkles all over. >> you guys looked very pretty in your sweater? >> dapper? >> pretty. >> send us your ugly christmas sweater photos this morning. friends at foxandfriends.com. >> did you guys plan this? >> no. >> we are wearing the exact same tie. >> we didn't plan. this didn't call each other ahead of time like ladies do. >> it's reichmuth's fault. he actually picked mine out. let's talk about the fiscal cliff which we appear to be speeding towards every day because there is nothing that even resembles a compromise on capitol hill. the president offered up his proposal this week and it was met with. [ laughter ] by some
year. >> 28 days till the fiscal cliff a combination of automatic tax increases and spending cuts congress. president obama this is a plain political chicken right now. he is proposing that 600 billion in spending cuts and 200 building and is spending to stimulate county the economy. this say that republicans do not have a plan right now so we are in limbo until congress acts. hopefully the two weeks will get together and get through their talks. >> three firefighters were involved in a net accident and weather-related they were on the shoulder of the highway when a car slammed into the side of the fire engine. three firefighters were hurt and the driver of the car that was involved in the original accident on the side of the road was hurt as well from the second car. here are photos of the firefighters and there in the hospital. two of the needed surgery but three of them all three are expected to survive. this 737 and a live look outside and san jose and traffic is moving slowly working its way. there is lots of sunshine. >> san jose has marked its 43rd homicide of the year. the
. >> good morning. >> reporter: good morning. it's about the "fiscal cliff" on wall street but we have a number of positive signals on the economy. consumer spending did pull back in october according to the commerce department by 2/10 this is the of a percent following an 8/10th of a percent of gain in the previous month. superstorm sandy depressed spending. unless holiday sales soar over the 4th quarter it's going to be tough for the economy to continue the gain of 2.7% that the commerce department reported in the 3rd quarter yesterday. stockton focused on any talks out of d.c. -- stock market focused on any talks out of d.c. on the "fiscal cliff." the dow over 13,000. pretty modest start to the day today. right now the dow is up by 5 points. nasdaq though falling by 3. s&p down by one. social game maker zynga getting hit hard after announcing it and facebook are changing their partnership. zynga down 7.5%, facebook down slightly. back to you. >> thank you, jason brooks with kcbs and cbsmoneywatch.com. >>> a tale of two uncomfortable pairings. first the san francisco 49ers with two s
on monday night. >> today house speaker john boehner rejected president obama's proposal to avoid the fiscal cliff. boehner said no progress was made. boehner accused democrats of not being serious of real spending cuts. but democrats say republicans are causing the hold up. the proposal consisted of $1.6 trillion in higher taxes, they also wanted 50 billion for infrastructure. the president in return approved spending cuts this year and legislation for saving up to $400 million for programs like medicare over a decade. >>> former rivals president obama and governor romney spoke in private. and what they said remains in private. the white house did release a photo and reported that they had white turkey chili and south western chicken salad. when romney arrived, a man ran up to him and said something. secret service quickly ran up to him. >>> imagine running the equivalent of a marathon a day. patty lee shows us what inspired a 25-year-old san francisco woman to spend the past five months making this cross country journey. >>> it took four months, 3,200 miles and 12 pairs of running shoes to
obama's proposal to avoid the fiscal cliff. boehner said no progress was made. boehner accused democrats of not being serious of real spending cuts. but democrats say republicans are causing the hold up. the proposal consisted of $1.6 trillion in higher taxes, they also wanted 50 billion for infrastructure. the president in return approved spending cuts this year and legislation for saving up to $400 million for programs like medicare over a decade. >>> former rivals president obama and governor romney spoke in private. and what they said remains in private. the white house did release a photo and reported that they had white turkey chili and south western chicken salad. when romney arrived, a man ran up to him and said something. secret service quickly ran up to him. >>> imagine running the equivalent of a marathon a day. patty lee shows us what inspired a 25-year-old san francisco woman to spend the past five months making this cross country journey. >>> it took four months, 3,200 miles and 12 pairs of running shoes to get here: but this morning kelsie harrison ran to and through mari
his chief negotiator tim geithner to capitol hill to work on a "fiscal cliff" deal. house speaker john boehner came out of his meeting with the treasury secretary demanding the white house get serious about spending cuts. >> no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. >> reporter: if a compromise isn't reached soon, automatic tax hikes and steep budget cuts will kick in january 1. geithner moved from one end of the capitol to the other encouraging lawmakers to sign off on an extension of middle class tax cuts now. democrats say their position is clear and they want a serious offer from republicans. >> the american people want us to avoid the "fiscal cliff" with a balanced approach. >> reporter: geithner is here in the halls of congress trying to clear some big hurdles with republicans. once a deal is closer president obama will take over the talks. so far independent senator joe lieberman is not encouraged. >> if we go over the cliff it's going to send the country back into recession. >> reporter: vice president joe
.s. lawmakers are no closer to avoiding the fiscal cliff, according to house speaker john boehner. each party blame the other for failing to outline considerable spending cuts. president obama sent vice president joe biden out today to do some holiday shopping and highlight the spors of renewing middle class tax cuts so families can feel more secure. biden went to a washington area costco and chatted it up with staff and was followed around the store by a huge crowd, as you can see. his favorite part like many who go to costco, try out the free samples. he spoke about the importance of renewing the tax cuts. >> so i think it is important that coming act now. i mean, right now. all it has to do is take a single vote to extend the middle class tax cuts. >> reporter: biden bought cookies, children's books and apple pie, and a 32-inch flat screen tv. he decline an offer to buy a set of tires saying i don't drive anymore. envelop the president had a notable lunch guest at the white house today. his former rival, mitt romney. the get-together mark their first meeting since facing off in the third p
all this rang lg about the fiscal cliff isn't the goal. with the president asking for $50 billion in stimulus spending, do you worry they might be losing sight of that? >> the best thing for the country is to go over the fiscal cliff. it maximizing the deficit reduction. there's no deal cut between republicans and democrats. it's not going to reduce the amount of money coming out of the deficit by a lot. so if you do that, you go back to the clinton tax rates, cut some defense and we have a short, mild recession for two quarters. we have to get serious about the deficit e. i have no belief that the congress is going to get serious about the deficit. so tom cole was right because he wants to get the republicans back in the mainstream. but the best thing the country could do is go over the cliff. >> timothy geithner doesn't agree with you on that. >> he may or may not. but i looked at this a lot of ways. the people inside washington are awfully smart and awfully out of touch. we need to do something about the deficit. going over the fiscal cliff is the best thing we're going to get
deep spending cuts made to avoid the fiscal cliff would affect native-american issues. and you may remember yesterday, the president met with a group of six governors on this issue. this has become the primary focus on washington. alison burns is in our d.c. newsroom with more on this. >> reporter: that's right, tori. president obama is trying to convince these business leaders that he has a plan to avoid the fiscal cliff and get the economy back on track. but he says it's going to take some sacrifice. here's a look at the president shaking hands with business leaders about 15 minutes ago and he's calli for tax increases on the wealthiest americans and an extension of tax rates for the middle school. talks have fallen apart in recent days. but the president insists he's working with republicans to try to get a deal. republicans are willing to cut -- >> reporter: republicans are willing to cut loopholes. here's what john boehner said. >> the revenues being put on the table are gonna come from guess who? the rich. >> reporter: republicans say it's clear to them that president obama
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-called fiscal cliff, but so far there's been more rhetoric than resolve. there's now less than a month to head off the automatic tax hikes and spending cuts that will kick in next year. john boehner said he can't believe the latest white house proposal. the obama administration insists there's no deal without a tax increase. susan mcginnis is in washington with details this morning. susan, good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, terrell. it may appear the two sides are nowhere but these talks are expected to pick up dramatically very soon. december is here and as they say here in washington the lawmakers can smell the jet fumes meaning the planes taking them home for their holiday recess. what we're hearing there should be a deal by christmas. the white house is already decorated for the holidays but the mood here in washington is anything but festive. >> i think we're going over the cliff. >> reporter: if congress doesn't act america will ring in the new year with $110 billion in spending cuts and a $500 billion tax increase leaving the average household with a nearly $3,500 hangover.
slash that government spending, if and when the fiscal cliff goes into effect, that can really eat into gdp and is part of the reason the congressional budget office has said if we do go over the cliff, the u.s. could go back into a recession. carol? >> alison kosik at the new york stock exchange. >>> well, someone is waking up this morning as a multimillionaire. winning tickets for the powerball's record-breaking $580 million jackpot were sold in arizona and missouri. last night's winning numbers, if you're curious, 5, 23, 16, 22, 29 and the powerball number is 6. winners will split the largest jackpot in powerball's history. we know one of the tickets was bought around the kansas city area. but whoever won was really lucky, because the odds of winning, 1 in 175 million. you have a much better chance of getting hit by -- we say that every time. you know. the odds are long. lucky them, and we're happy for them. >>> journalist tom ricks is a star. not for his new book, not for his 17 years at the wall street journal, but for his 90 seconds on fox news. when asked about the attacks o
up, we're one month away from the fiscal cliff and so far the white house and congressional republicans are still in disagreement over how to reduce the deficit and avoid a raft of tax hikes and spending cuts. yesterday our own jim cramer and maria bartiromo were on "meet the press" and cramer had a message for fellow panelists and father of the anti-tax pledge, grover norquist. >> most ceos are republican. they're on board. they're not on board with you. they're not on board with you because they fear your view. they think you do not favor going -- you favor going over the cliff. that's what they think. they think that you favor -- >> just for the record since we're on tv. that's silly if they think that they shouldn't be ceos. >> it doesn't really matter. that's what they think. >> i want you to walk me up to that moment. >> behind the record. i like that too. >> i'm stuck. like grover is stuck with this pledge he made everybody take which is that they have to go over the cliff because they obviously will not ever say the word tax. they will only say revenue. i'm stuck spe
but president obama is demanding republicans vote now to prevent the worst fall off the fiscal cliff, tax hikes on 98% of americans. >> the first job is to make sure tax on middle class families don't go up and since we all agree on this we should get that done. >> reporter: house democrats agree. >> if we can get a few house republicans to agree, as well, i will sign this bill. >> reporter: republican tom cole got on board. >> we all agree that we are not going to raise taxes on people that make less than $250,000. >> reporter: house speaker john boehner says no. once tax breaks get blocked democrats can go home for the holidays and on january 1 tax rates rise automatically for the top 2%. worried ceos came to capitol hill saying congress has to avoid the cliff. >> entitlements have to be touched and revenues have to be touched. >> to make sure we have revenue necessary in order to move this economy forward. >> we are willing to put revenue on the table as long as we are not raising rates. >> reporter: the president says no long-term deal without a rate hike on the rich. he is urging the middl
the deadline for the so-calleded fiscal cliff. the drama is building. check out what house speaker, john boehner, had to say this week. >> the white house spends three weeks of trying to develop a proposal that calls for $1.6 trillion in new taxes, calls for a little, not even $400 billion in cuts and they want to have this extra spending that's actually greater than the amount they are willing to cut. it was not a serious proposal. right now, we are almost nowhere. >> oh, mr. boehner, you have got it all wrong. it is a serious proposal, really serious. godfather serious. >>> watching the d.c. drama convinced those of us in nerdland that president obama must be a fan of the francis ford copel la masterpiece. remove the lethal components and there are valuable negotiating lessons that the president seems to be picking up on, like this one. >> my father taught me many things here. he taught me in this room. he caught me keep your friends close but your enemies closer. >> well, president obama keeping his opponents close in hand. lunch with mitt romney. a mid-week summit with the business l
. >> reporter: and secretary panetta has warned the fiscal cliff would hurt our national defense. he's expected to hold a news conference any minute now. he's getting the order from the white house to brace for massive budget cut us. now, the automatic spending cuts that would kick in if congress does not reach an agreement on the fiscal cliff would force the pentagon to slice about 10% of the budget. the defense industry projects one in five defense contracts in california would be lost. the aerospace industry is projecting that 135,000 department jobs would be cut along with 90,000 jobs for a total of about 225,000 jobs lost in california over the next few years. alison burns, ktvu channel 2 news. >>> 8:16. well, today will mark the 9 oth annual lighting of the national christmas tree. president obama and his family, they will flip a switch lighting that tree this evening. neil patrick harris, remember doogie howser? he will be hosting the event. james taylor and the fray will be among the group of perform. president calvin coolidge started this tradition back in 1923. >>> well, free flu shou
to avert the so- called fiscal cliff, it's one reason why we believe we put revenue on the table as long as it's accompanied by serious spending cuts to avert this crisis. >> > in order to kick the debt ceiling the wanted its deficit reduction and this is basically that a stop- active measure to save it or to get a deal done. nobody wants to go there but we need deficit reduction and this is how we to it. >> . read saying that was not doing that well but now, john boehner is a saying that it is a little bit better what is going on? >> not really anything they are still talking at each other and the president is now bringing more to the bargaining table for john boehner to bring more provis
. >>> president obama dispatched his chief negotiator to capitol hill to work on a deal to avoid the "fiscal cliff." today treasury secretary tim geithner met with house and senate leaders. republicans came out of that meeting saying that the white house needs to get serious about spending cuts. >> it's time for the president, congressional democrats to tell the american people what spending cuts they are really willing to make. >> let's give a christmas present to the american people. and all we're saying is, we're willing to make the cuts. >> coming needs to reach an agreement in the next few weeks in order to avoid a series of automatic tax hikes and spending cuts in january. >>> oh, to be a fly on the wall on this one. president obama and mitt romney met privately at the white house today to chew over the nation's economic issues. it was the first time they have been together face to face since their contentious campaigns. cbs reporter tara mergener on the political power lunch. >> reporter: mitt romney got out of an suv and walked into the white house alone. the former republican nominee then
are planned or capitol hill today in an effort to avoid that dreaded "fiscal cliff." the treasury secretary tim geithner and another man will visit separately with house and senate leaders to find common ground on how to avert a series of tax increases and spending cuts beginning in january. >>> president obama will have lunch in just a few hours with mitt romney. it will be the first time they have met face to face since the final debate shortly before this month's election. the event will be held at the white house. it is private, no aides present, no media, just the president and the former gop nominee. they will hash it out. >> should be interesting. >> maybe he will bring mitt into the fold. who knows. >> we'll see. >>> just from the labor department the number of americans filing first time unemployment claims fell last week. the decline comes as impact of superstorm sandy eases a bit. this morning, stock futures are moving higher on encouraging news from washington on the "fiscal cliff" issue. ashley morrison of cbsmoneywatch.com joins us. good morning, ashley. >> reporter: good morn
.m.. >> with just a month to go before the impacts of the looming fiscal cliff kick in, president obama is taking his solutions to the public sounding at times like he is back on the campaign trail. analysts say that the combination of the tax increases and spending cuts could de real the recovering economy. despite some initial sounds of cooperation after the election, the president and the house speaker john boehner do not appear close to a deal. kron4 catherine heenan explains. >> every family in america will see their income tax automatically go on january 1st. every family that means everyone here will see their taxes go up on january 1st. i am assuming that this does not sound too good to you. >> we know that when the treasury secretary issued the proposal to republicans they laughed. house speaker john banner stated that the ideal of boosting would be a crippling blow to the economy. >> let's not kid ourselves. the company cannot or sure they all for this. >> the key sticking point is taxes. democrats want to extend the bush cut for the middle class. republicans do not want to tax rate inc
the fiscal cliff, january 1st, nearly every american will pay more income tax between $2,000 to $2400 for the average family, 2% cut in payroll taxes will disappear, 500 billion dollars in automatic spending cuts in effect, half at the pentagon the other half from educating, transportation, food safety and research. economists fear if washington can strike a deal the economy will fall back into recession and employment will shoot up. tahman bradley, abc news, washington. >>> sarah palin stepped out on the red carpet -- nancy pelosi stepped out on the red carpet for a night of glamour she strolled before photographers at last night's kennedy center honors she talked about efforts to resolve the impasse. >> this is not a night of politics and policy, but since you asked, yes we think it would be a wonderful christmas gift to the american people for the middle class to have a tax cut come january. >> pelosi says she will try to force a house vote on a senate passed bill to break the deadlock. >> the kennedy center on -- -- they received the nation's highest award. >>> let's look outside
to see us go over the fiscal cliff. we have got to get serious. we do not want to increase tax rates. we want to do something about the spending problem. remember, the goodwill -- the speaker put revenue on the table just after the election. he said, we get it. the president won his reelection and we won our be election. here is our proposal to the president that we were unwilling to give during that negotiation talks last year. >> they know that you put revenue on the table. will you pull back from them and give them some spending cuts question mark -- cuts? >> this is not a game. we are not interested in playing rope a dope. we do not want to see taxes go up on anybody. we want to engage in tax reform and get the economy going. we are not playing a game. that offer yesterday was simply not serious. thank you. >> next, house minority leader nancy pelosi talks to reporters about the so-called the school cliff negotiations. she urged house republican leadership to bring legislation to the floor regarding middle- class tax cuts. this is about 20 minutes. >> good afternoon. i'm here today w
the fiscal cliff comes. lawmakers now have less than a month to compromise and to avoid a year-end deadline that would trigger massive spending cuts and tax hikes for just about everybody. behind-the-scenes negotiations at a stalemate. both sides went public yesterday on the sunday morning shows to make their cases. treasury secretary tim geithner predicted republicans would eventually come around to accept a tax increase on the highest earners. >> you think we'll get a deal by the end of the year? >> i do. i do. the only thing standing in the way of that would be a refusal by republicans to accept that rates are going to have to go up on the wealthiest americans. and i don't really see them doing that. >> if the republicans say sorry, no way are we going to raise rates on the wealthy, you guys are willing to go off the fiscal cliff? >> if republicans are not willing to let rates go back up, and we think they should go back to the clinton levels, a time when the american economy is doing exceptionally well, then there will not be an agreement. >> but house speaker john bigger is digging in
] stuart: moving along, republicans counteroffer to president obama's solution to the fiscal cliff yesterday with a plan of 800 billion dollars in new revenue from tax reform, not from higher tax rates. plus, about a trillion dollars in spending cuts. speaker john boehner said the president's plan just wouldn't pass. unfortunately, the white house responded with their la-la land offer that couldn't pass the house. so basically they are at odds. david, here's what i've got, here's my calculation, rough back of the envelope, okay? when i can find the envelope. okay? it is president obama wants 800 billion dollars more in tax revenue from the rich in the form of higher tax rates. the republicans want about a trillion dollars more in spending cuts. david: uh-huh. stuart: the two sides are those dollar numbers apart. and you say what? david: i say i don't think the president cares if it passes the house. because if it passes, he gets everything he wants. he doubled the amount of tax income he wanted from the private sector because he wants many r in his proposal. -- he wants more in his
right now. >>> our country will be heading over the fiscal cliff that we ourselves dug and put in our way. it's the set of automatic spending cuts and tax hikes that can only be averted if our nation's leaders are able to display bear bones competence and middle school-level maturity. so is there a deal? >> there's, of course, no deal. >> of course! is there a prospect for a deal? >> there's not a prospect for a deal. >> of course! but the ongoing talks. >> there aren't even very many talks going on. >> you're killing us! give us something. >> but for the first time, there are numbers on pieces of paper from both sides. >> numbers on paper! >>> good morning. it's wednesday, december 5th. welcome to "morning joe." live in the nation's capital. this is exciting. and you know, i said, let's do a show from washington, d.c., because they get so much stuff done there. it's like silicon valley. and going there when steve jobs was really bringing apple to the forefront -- >> a happening place. >> it is. it's where things happen. that's why we're here, steve rattner. >> washington is the place
: a very different tone on capitol hill as fiscal cliff negotiations remain rocky. the president sent his top negotiator, treasury secretary tim geithner to meet with congressional leaders. afterward, house speaker john boehner said the white house had not proposed spending cuts needed to win critical republican votes. >> i have to tell you, i'm disappointed in where we are, i am disappointed in what's happened in the last couple weeks. >> reporter: senate majority leader harry reid fired back saying democrats put forward a serious plan and ridiculed boehner when asked about the argument that the ball is in the democrats' court. >> i don't understand his brain, so you should ask him. >> reporter: away from the hill, vice president biden took his own steps to push for fiscal cliff compromise, stopping in d.c.'s first costco. warning the economy could suffer greatly if lawmakers can't get a deal done. he proudly flashed his store membership card. >> i went to get my wife's card, she said no, no, no, get your own. >> reporter: according to sources at the white house and on the hill, treasury
. you can't do that in three weeks. >> so do you think we go off the fiscal cliff? >> no. all you've got to do -- you know what you've got to do on the tax side. that's simple. you have to palass a law that ss the law has to be overwritten. >> and what would be your position on that? >> i think it's the simple thing to do. obviously do what the president is saying, you know. he ran a campaign on it. the legitimacy of that. if you've got to act in three weeks, you're not going to revise the income tax code in three weeks. it may be perfectly legitimate. i think that both. personal and corporate need a lot of thought and a lot of revision. they're both broken. but you're not going to do that in three weeks. the challenge i see is in three weeks you've got to have some convincing balance of the tax side, the revenue side, with the expenditure side. it's inherent. you can't change the expenditures in three weeks. you can indicate intentions, but you can't -- >> what do you think happens then? >> i think you get some understanding about the kind of framework for dealing with the expenditure s
to be operating. as the fiscal cliff approaches, we should be work together across the aisle to address issues like we are today with the defense authorization bill but also other critical issues, including tax issues and spending issues and that's what i wanted to address today. we -- we have a lot of challenges and instead of pulling together, we seem to be pulling apart. and i'm specifically referring to some of the suggestions by some in the majority that we consider controversial and partisan rule changes that would marginalize minority members and doing it in a way that breaks the current rules to change the rules. and what i mean by that is, it takes 67 votes to change a rule here in the united states sena senate. that's a rule, by the way, that dates back to 1917. and the reason that's in place is because obviously, you know, folks wanted to force the majority and the minority to work together to make those rule changes. you don't get a two-thirds vote without that. and i think that's important, that the basic rules are ones that are agreed on. we tend to change parties a lot around he
as i do not want to see us go over the fiscal cliff, but feel very strongly we've got to get serious here. we don't want to increase tax rates. we're not going to increase tax rates. and we want to do something about the spending problem. and remember, the good will, the piece that is, i think, determinive here, the speakers put new revenues on the table just after the election and said we get it. the president won his re-election. we wonelection. >> they know they need to put revenant on the table, but will and give them the entitlement cuts? >> we will take this as a serious matter. this is not a game. we are interested in trying to solve the problem for the american people so that we do not see taxes go up on anybody, so we can engage in reform, get the economy going again. we're not playing a game. that offer yesterday was not serious. thank you. >> that was a portion of a briefing held earlier today. eric cantor talked about a bill that the house pass today that creates a new visa program. the vote was 245-139. the house is adjourned for the week, but members return at noon on m
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